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| Mark Caron | My Honda 4514 won't start. It is intermittent. Sometimes it starts. Recently, it turns over but won't start. I disconnected the outlet line of the fuel pump and turned the key on. The electric pump pumped fuel. I read on the forum that it could be the CDI. Is there a CDI on the 4514? I took the igntion plastic panel (where ignition switch is mounted to) off and could not find a CDI. Any ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. |
| Larry | Mark: I had the identical problem. If my 4514 started it ran fine. It would sometimes fire so fast you could hardly get your hand off the ignition switch before it was running. But if it turned two or three turns without firing, you could crank on it for an hour and it would not start. You never knew when you sat down whether you would get it to start or not. The answer for me was this. After fooling around with fuel flow investigation, and after wiring around the ignition switch to rule out that problem, I finally discovered it was the coil. Got a new coil and it has started 100% of the time since. The problem here is the installation. Normally this is an engine removal job, based on the fact that the rear engine cover, i.e., the flywheel cover (which is made of polypropylene plastic) is a one piece unit that won't come off the machine without engine removal. But I got around that disaster. There is a two part, hard plastic outer housing at the rear of the flywheel cover opening which is held on with four 10mm bolts (two on each piece). After removing them, and after removing all bolts holding the rear engine cover in place, I cut the cover in two places (essentially on two different radiuses - radii?) using a sawzall with a 12" metal blade in it. I made both cuts at locations where the two outer housings would straddle the cut lines, so that on reassembly the two outer housings both formed a "bridge" across the cut lines. Thus, there was one bolt on each side of the cut line on both outer housings. You only need to remove one of the severed parts - the other stays in place as it is not in the way. Then it is easy to get at the coil and change it out. Worked great for me. Clearly this is not the preferred Honda way, but it avoided engine removal and got the coil installed. Hope this helps. Larry PS - I suppose you could avoid engine removal by attacking the problem from the rear by first removing the transaxle, then the drive shaft, then the fywheel cover. But cutting it made more sense to me.
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| Mark Caron | Thanks Larry for the quick and detailed response. I will attempt to tackle this this weekend
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| Rhonda Hartmann | I am in desparate need of a service manual for a Honda 4514. Can anyone help me with this???? Where to get one??? I can't get the engine to turn over, but you can hear the celinoid click..... appreciate any help I can get. |
| Jay | Larry, I'm, faced with the exact problem you solved with the sawzall. If youre looking at the flywheel cover from the rear of the tractor, pretending its the face of the clock, at what numbers did you cut? Thanks!
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| BILL | Try this for service manual: http://www.helminc.com/helm/Result.asp?Style=helm&Mfg=AHP&Make=AHP&Model=RIDE&Year=&Category=1&Keyword=&Module=&selected%5Fmedia=&mscsid=LNM9NHU4LQRE8J776F22LT5M40PN9KBE Great success, Bill |
| Scythey | Did a job on 4514 the other day wouldn't start but mower place couldn't work it out coz just started working as they took it apart. It then worked for a season & stopped again. Strange we thought, you could hear the solenoid clicking but it didn't get any further. After some poking around i discovered than the positive main lead from the battery was lose (no that easy to tell, only undone a mm 0r 2). I moved it a bit, turned the key she start straight away!! then i just tighten the nut up. She runs like a dream now!! Just gota straighten the Bonnet, Chassis & all the other bits what are bent, god only knows what he hit But it was definitely solid!!!! Cheers chaps! Scythey. |
| Bill K | My Honda 4514 was working great last fall however, this spring it wouldn't start. During the winter mice had chewed through three wires and there was a substantial amount of mouse nesting material under the flywheel cover. I (we) had to make a cut in the flywheel cover as detailed by 'Larry' on the message board. I replaced the ignition coil and I am getting a good spark, I've got gasoline coming into the carburater however, it won't start. As near as I (we) can figure it the problem must be either the carburater or in the intake manifold - but I'm not sure. |
| Bob | Remove steering wheel and plastic covers to access ignition module (CDU). Unplug unit and wash with CRC contact cleaner. plug in unit and reassemble wheel and all. Cured my issues.
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| Ray Grzybowski | Tractor sat outside over the past winter. THought that the battery was the issue. Installed new battery. Turn the ignition and nothing happens. Lights won't turn on. Checked fuse box and fuses, all looks fine. Not sure where to look next. Ignition switch? |
| Bob | Not so fast! Back to no start issue. It had started every day for a week, until it was time to mow. Exasperated! Any suggestions appretiated.
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