Long Agribusiness LandTrac 300. Too good to be true?


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Long Agribusiness LandTrac 300. Too good to be true?

Rick I've been looking to buy a compact tractor around 30hp and found the Long Agribusiness LandTrac 300. It exceeds almost all specifications of the major tractor manufacturers, but it's priced thousands less. It's manufactured in India by the company that manufactured Ford. It's got a 4 cylinder Mitsubishi engine, front and rear hydraulics, separate pump for the power steering, 3 point that lifts almost 3000lbs, and the list goes on and on. Does anybody own one, and if so, how is it performing?
Phil I just looked at the Long tractors and the Branson line side by side. I like some of the things about Long (color, fender edges of plastic to catch thrown mud, ergos, rear hydraulics standard) but overall thought the Branson a better deal ($1600 less money, equal lift, equal ergos, better transmission, better fuel filler location, easier loader install/removal). Both good tractors...

Phil

Rick Phil-

Thanks for the reply. I was beginning to think that nobody has looked into the Long Tractor line. I haven't seen any Branson tractors around here. I'm located in northeast Ohio. I'll search for a Branson website to see what I can come up with. I've kind of been looking more to the New Hollands for purchase because I'm concerned about finding replacement parts for a Long tractor 20 years from now. However, the Longs are an extension of a company called "LG", and I've been seeing this company pop up all over the place. So who knows, maybe the the Longs are here to stay.?

RW

Rick Phil-

Thanks for the reply. I was beginning to think that nobody has looked into the Long Tractor line. I haven't seen any Branson tractors around here. I'm located in northeast Ohio. I'll search for a Branson website to see what I can come up with. I've kind of been looking more to the New Hollands for purchase because I'm concerned about finding replacement parts for a Long tractor 20 years from now. However, the Longs are an extension of a company called "LG", and I've been seeing this company pop up all over the place. So who knows, maybe the the Longs are here to stay.?

RW

Phil I had the same issues. The big names seem to be there BUT they change thier lines a lot and who knows what that does for parts availability? If you look at NH the TC30 seems like a good tractor if a bit light compared to Long and Branson. Pricing is not too bad. Also take a peak at Massey Ferguson (same as AGCO) and thier 1429 or 1433v (or even teh slightly smaller 1428). I am probably taking some chance with the Branson (or Long or Kioti) but then again most tractors use the same basic principles and a decent mechanic should be able to fix just about any of them.

Phil

Rick Phil-

I spoke to some of the members of the tractor club I belong to and Long tractors have been around for a while. Also, I found out that the company that manufactures them used to manufacture the Ford tractors. When looking at the farm tractor series of Long, you can definately tell that they look like Fords.

Rick

Phil Rick, be aware that not every Long tractor is made by the same company. My understanding is that there are several "lines" in Long. You have Landtrac, Farmtrac, Longtrac, etc.. The tractor for each line is made by a different supplier. Massey Ferguson is another example of this structure. This is not necessarily bad just modern global economics. Compact tractors are generally made in Asia, mid size in Europe and big rigs in North America since thats where small, mid size and conglomerate farms (and tractor buyers) exist in large numbers... at least thats what I gleaned from many a dealer I spoke with...
Have fun shoppin'!

Phil

Richard I own a Long Agribusiness LandTrac DTC530. 4 wheel drive, 57 PTO HP.
All in all it is a good tractor, made in Korea, With the only exception being the front end.
I am presently getting the 5th front end put in it. The teeth on the pinion gears apparently are too hard and keep breaking. I have less than 200 hours on the unit.
If they could get the front end to hold up, I would call it a great tractor. I can stack 1200 lb bales of hay 3 high with it as long as I have a bale on the back for counter weight.

BOB I do notown a long but have an Allis Chalmers5050which is about 50 hp it was manufacturee by fiat who made the same size tractor for long I use long replacement parts as they are reaadily available and much cheaper than AC. My friend has bought his second long and if I were to by a new tractor today I would seriously consider long
Rick Well, I'm just about ready to make a purchase. I've spoken to a couple of people living near me who are using the FarmTrac 300 and are very happy with the tractor. I also had an opportunity to operate a John Deere 4310. Although it is a great machine, I'm not sold on the hydrostatic transmission, and it is a couple of thousand dollars more than the Long. I hope to make a purcahse within the next couple of weeks. Again, I've been researching similar tractors, and can't find anything else that holds up to the Long Ag.
Rick Well, I'm just about ready to make a purchase. I've spoken to a couple of people living near me who are using the FarmTrac 300 and are very happy with the tractor. I also had an opportunity to operate a John Deere 4310. Although it is a great machine, I'm not sold on the hydrostatic transmission, and it is a couple of thousand dollars more than the Long. I hope to make a purcahse within the next couple of weeks. Again, I've been researching similar tractors, and can't find anything else that holds up to the Long Ag.
Richard II Re: the 530 with front end problems. I assume the dealer is putting in the new front ends. What happens when the warranty expires and it's either up to you or a mechanic to fix? I'm currently looking at a Long 530 with a loader. Up to your post, I was impressed with all the positive comments on the Long. With a loader on the fornt end, I would be doing quite a bit of 4WD usage which, obviously, would put more stress on the front end. What year is your model? I found two dealers with used Long in inventory, basically year 2000. Both have aobut 300 hours on them. I'm cautious about that. theowners seem to have traded with little hours on the tractors = disatisfaction? The one with a loader is in the $17k range, which is a good price in comparison to used JD's and NH, at least the ones local dealers have for sale. I remember that back in the late 80's/early90s? SAME had a similar problem with their 4WD front ends, they just wouldn't stay together. Comments from any one?
Ken Buyer be-ware, as they say. And, it is very fitting with a Long AgriBusiness compact tractor. The higher end FarmTrac series seem to be very reliable, canít say as much for the LandTrac line. I too did a lot or research and was impressed with what I read pre-purchase. My neighbors with New Holland, Kubota and John Deereís donít seem to have the same problems Iíve experienced. Reliability and cost coincide with tractors.

I bought a LandTrac 360 in late 2001, based on the same information you have found. Price was better but without some nice features found on big name products. I thought the 360 to be well built (Ford design and transmission) and the 4 vs. 3 cylinders found in all other products was the decision maker. It is a work horse when running properly. The 360 has never failed to start, and it handles jobs larger than a 36 horse should, but there ends the positives. Clutches on a 12 MPH vehicle should be more reliable than one per every 2 years of service and the body didnít hold up well.

I am getting ready to have the third clutch installed with just over 500 hours. The plastic fenders are all breaking, the front end loader is a beast to remove and install. Last I put it back on, it would not seat level. Tell me how you bend 1/4 inch steel? The dealer is a nice guy, knows his business and has been at it a long time (no pun intended). However with all small dealers, it takes forever to get anything serviced.

My next tractor will be HST, and definitely be from a big name dealer, JD, NH or Kubota.

David bradford I bought a Land trac 300 in 2001 new. it now has 200 hours on it and it has been great. The only problem i had with it was the spedo/tach cable breaking where it was designed wrong and would bind up under the instrument panel. After the 4th cable LG finally designed it a little shorter and for the past 175 hours it is still working great with no break. I want to put a backhoe on it. Does LG make a frame mount backhoe for the 300?
David Ruslander I own a Landtrac DC300 and have been quite pleased. I've had it for about 3 years it put through its paces, it's never let me down. The only thing that I think is a weakness are the plastic fenders. I have found that simply putting my hand on the same spot all the time while get down from the tractor has cracked the grey plastic portion of the fender.
Steve I bought a Long Farmtrack 360 Dtc new about three years ago and it runs like a bear, lifts, digs,
climbs, like a champ. The only problem is very
minor and that is the clutch return spring keeps
breaking on me. It dosen't really affect anything
and after 800 hours the clutch is fine, and I do alot of back and forth work with it. I'd easily buy a fleet of these tractors. I see John Deeres of comporable size and they do not seem
as geared for real work or as user friendly.

Gary We are using my faather-in-law's Landtrack 360 that is about a 2001 and sat for 5 years before putiing it into service for primarily mowing with a 6 foot finishing mower 2 years ago. It has been fine but does not mow the pasture with thick or foot high grass well at all. I was backing tonight and heard a pop and the PTO seems to be barely turning with the RPMs up. I checked the PTO shaft and mower and all seem fine. I can not turn the tractor PTO shaft with my hand and it has proper lights on the dash and turns when not hooked to the mower as advertised for the indep and manual mode and works as advertised with clutch engaged and out. Hooked it up again and seemed to turn much slower than it used to turn. Does anyone have any similar experience and this tractor as it has less than 100 hours on it?
Gary Obviously the 2000-2001 Long Landtrack 360 SEEMED to good to be true when my father-in-law purchased it back then. He never really put it through the paces a tractor must perform to to be truely called a GOOD TRACTOR! Continuing with my previous blog, when I contacted the local Farmtrack dealer in Shreveport, LA regarding my problem, I was met with accusations that I HAD to have run over something like a stump! I informed the man I had done no such thing and was backing and mowing my pasture with half inch sweetgum saplings and grass about 18 inches high. I called the Kubota dealer's service department and they said it sounded like a clutch gone bad but tha they did not work on Long tractors and had never but would try. Eventually on Saturday, I took the mower off the Landtrack and hook it up to my 51 Ford 8N and it worked fine even though I think it is too large (6 foot) for the little 23 hp Ford. When we got to the dealer, he tried to stop the PTO with his foot but could not. He said he thought it might be an oil seal that keeps oil pressure on the clutch for the PTO. He said he did not think it was the gear from the inhtermediate shaft to the PTO shaft because it di not make a popping sound. Unfortunately he said it did require spliting the backend of the tractor to find out the problem and it would be approximately a month before he could get to it as he had so many others stacked up to be "worked" on! (Does that tell you the maybe Longs break at a higher rate than some other brands?) Anyway, it has been narrowed down to one of three things (PTO clutch, oil seal or PTO gear) but any of which will rack up a bill of near $1000 +. Before I got down to the dealer with our Long, my Father-inLaw was down there talking to the main mechanic and he told him that the PTO gear could shear by going over a 8-10 inch fireant mound (we have them everywhere in LA), a limb, a clump of hay or grass or a stump. He had two that he had recently repaired and showed him what they looked like. Now comes the real disgusting fact about this whole mess - and that is the Long Landtrack 360 has only 73.4 hours on it!!!!!! This is, in my estimation and remember I am biased since I have the checkbook that will have to pay for this fiasco, inexcusable for a "modern tractor" to have such weak systems as this PTO and the previous comments of Richard on his tractors five frontends. I'm not going to be nearly so lucky as him where his dealer has been footing his bill, my dealer has no qualms about charging me fore this poorly built tractor. In conclusion, in this day and time of so much junk and hazardous products are coming out of China and the Far East, if a tractor deal seems too sweet to be true, IT PROBABLY IS!!!! CAVEAT TRACTOR!
Steve I'm happy with the Branson 2810 we bought 4 years ago (new). I have done my best to destroy this little tractor working in the woods, digging several ponds. You may tear up the implements you hook up to it, but you're not going to hurt the tractor much. I did a lot of research before buying this brand, and I concluded at the time that Branson's represent the most bang for the buck. When I have done with this one, I will definitely get another.
Brian I purchased my LA 300 back in 02. I have about 2000 hr out it. The only problem I have is that the Trottle seems to stick a little now. Other than that, I have pulled stumps, moved travel, stone, un name it, it have done it. Very happy. I also have a Lucknow blower. That is great as well...
Franky J Schoolcraft I am about to purchase a 2001 LanTrac 300 DTS and am looking for some insight about the tractor and the value of it. Can anyone offer some advise??
Dale Rick,
I have owned my Landtrac 360 DTC for 8 years and it has lived up to all my expectations. We keep 16 of 25 acres mowed on a regular basis, have a front end loader, 5' tiller, blade, grater box, finish mower, log splitter and a big rotary mower. The 360 DTC handles all exceptionally well. Just follow the maintenance schedule and I am sure you will find the Landtrac 360 DTC an excellent selection.
Our local dealer went out of business. Now the closest dealer is about 35 miles away. I am looking for an online supplier of parts for the 360 DTC and have not found one yet. That's been the only negative I could share.

Dale

gary has anyone found a place to purchase replacement pars for a long agribusiness - lantrac 280 dtc. I need the plastic fender extentions.
Bill Does anyone have a Farmtrac 530 or experience with them. I am looking at one with a loader and 200 hours. Looks good but I have not seen these until now.
Mike I have had a Farmtrac 360DTC with front end loader and Farmi wench. I've had very few problems in using it for hauling out firewood and digging around the farm. Only complaint at this point if finding parts and manual. Anyone have suggestions in this regard?
Andy
Parts for the former Long Agribusiness LandTrac Series and EscortsAgri former Farmtrac Series of COMPACT tractors.

Parts!

For ANY Landtrac or Farmtrac COMPACT TRACTOR...

I repeat: For the Korean & Indian built COMPACT tractors, NOT the larger former Ford-based UTILITY tractors.

As far as I know and understand, COMPACT tractor parts can be obtained through ANY competent Montana Tractors dealer.

Montana Tractors bought up the failed (Landtrac - Korean built) (Farmtrac - Indian built) "Farmtrac North America" company from "EscortsAgri" in March of 2008, after "Farmtrac North America" went belly-up in January 2008 and closed their doors for business.

You will find that the Montana COMPACT series of tractors are now basically the exact same compact tractors as the former Landtrac/Farmtrac compacts. They merely have green paint and a new name. (Unless you are blind, the resemblance is uncanny.)

For example... From what I can tell, the Landtrac (or the Farmtrac) 360DTC is basically the same tractor as the Montana 3840.

Here's a quick "Paint Color Reference":

Landtrac - "Long" purple sheetmetal & black chassis with silver rims.

Farmtrac - "Ford" blue sheetmetal & black chassis with white rims.

Montana - "Montana" green sheetmetal & black chassis with silver rims.

Check out Montana's website: www.montanatractors.com


Now... the FARMTRAC UTILITY TRACTOR line (NOT the Korean and Indian built COMPACT tractor line) is STILL a viable company today, under the EscortsAgri Machinery Group.

Again, I repeat... Farmtrac UTILITY tractor LINE.

Check out EscortsAgri's website: www.escortsagri.com

Escorts Agri is the Indian company that still produces the Farmtrac Utility series of tractors. They are 30Hp - 60Hp tractors. They ARE the decendants of the FORMER American Ford utility tractors. They are the new versions of the former series like Ford 3910, 4610, 5610 series of FORD UTILITY farm tractors that New Holland so foolishly sold off many years ago.

The "Farmtrac" utility line is sold and marketed as an export tractor from EscortsAgri in India to all "advanced markets in the world". (Like the USA.)

Additionally, EscortsAgri also has thee "Powertrac", which are 34Hp - 55Hp tractors. They are also former "Ford-based" utility tractors. I believe the Powertracs are only available in India. (Possibly exported to the 3rd-world countries also.)

I'd be willing to bet my left nut that the engines in the Powertrac's are not emissions-compliant for import into the USA. (But I honestly don't know that for certain.)

Gotta do a lot of on-line research to find all this crap out. It ain't terrible difficult, just a pain in the butt is all. But, you'll be amazed what you can learn!

Hope I was of help!

P.S. The posted picture of the Landtrac 360DTC with cab is ours, and it's for sale. Only 1,050 hours. Never a problem. She's a great, reliable, efficient heavy-duty little compact diesel 4x4 tractor. Only selling because we no longer need it due to we are downsizing our equipment line. Asking $10,500. Tractor is located in Williamson, NY 14589.

I can be contacted at:

Martin I bought a Long Agribusineess 360DTC 7 years ago. Had a FEL and now has ~850 hours. Stays in an unheated barn and never had any issues with cold weakther starting, Never had any problems of significance (yet), just little things that go out with time/use. I also noticed the hydralic hoses rubbing on the loader froame and had to wrap them to prevent wearing through. Getting the FEL on/off can be challenging. I now do it on a level paved drive and have less trouble. Overall I am satisfied and would recommend the tractor. I was able to locate A MOntana dealer who has been very helpful in getting any parts, advice, etc now that Long is defunct.
boehler i am looking at a 2000 landtrac model 280 dtc 28 hp tractor. the tractor has 750 hrs and is A 4WD. IT APPEARS TO BE CLEAN. it has turf tires and three point hitch. one owner. 4clynder engine. i would like to know if its dependable, if you can still get parts, and the approximate value of this tractor. thanks
BILL I HAVE A LONG 480 AIR BUS 2003 4X4 AND WOULD
LIKE TO SELL IT IT IS TOO BIG FOR ME TO HANDLE
SINCE I AM 82 YEARS YOUNG WHAT IS IT WORTH?
THANKS

Roger I have a LandTrac 300.Never been in the shop.Love it,but need to sell it and the finish mower,box blade and brush hog.It has 757 hrs.4x4 shuttle shift.It is listed on craigslist.
Andrew I have a LandTrac 300 DTC. Runs well, gets used for chores around our "farmette." Starts a little hard in subfreezing weather, so I keep it in my insulated workshop in the winter. Other than that, no complaints at all. Other than changing oil and filters, never been worked on.
D.S. Pavan Kumar Dear Sir,

We wish to purchase the compact track loaders or mini tractors to be used for cleaning, collecting the debris or litter under the poultry farms. The height of the poultry farm from ground level would be 6-8 feet approximately.

The machine must go under the farm and collect the debris/litter.

Please contact us with the details, brochure and price of the machine at the earliest sir.

waiting for your reply soon,

With Best Regards,
D.S. Pavan Kumar
Mob: 9290070873
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Chris Looking to purchase. A 1999-2000 long 530 from an estate sale, wondering a ball park value, decent shape. Thanks
JERRY ADAMS I have a farmtrac 360 tractor with a 5145 loader having problems after using a couple of hours with hydraulic fluid comming out of the vent from under the seat whenever using the bush hog the front bucket are using a disk fluid will star leaking out over the rear axle-thanks jerry adams -251-747-2223 call me and email me any one expericing this problem
Greg We have a Landtrac 470dtc and looking for a dealer that can help get parts. Info on any helpful dealers would be appreciated

subhash
Re: Parts for the former Long Agribusiness LandTrac Series and EscortsAgri former Farmtrac Series of COMPACT tractors.

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stew whitehurst hello i have a landtrac 360 with less then 450 hrs, make me a offer !
it has front bucket and scraper blade its kept inside, located in central va 434 981 3781

Bruce Gregg I have a Korean made tractor and I'm looking information on a L3503-D tractor. Also a service manual and a point of contact for parts, can you help me?

Thank you,
B. Gregg



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