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Posted by Hugh MacKay on Monday, August 24, 2009:

In Reply to: Re: What plow class is a Farmall H? posted by John M on Sunday, August 23, 2009:

John: I don't dispute the clever new marketing approach. No question the A and B filled a niche, not done in the past. I've used an F-12 and it would have a hard time measuring up to the A and B let alone an H. One possible exception the F-12 or F-14 had an advantage over the A and B was the large diameter wheels on a hard pull in a tight situation. Those 24" tires just couldn't get as much traction. These were cultivator tractors, and I pull 4 rows of cultivator front and rear tools with my 140 on 24" tires

You can also put the shoe on the other foot, when the B turned into a C with 36" tires, that little C-113 engine did not stand up to the task near as well as A or B with 24" tires. We had a local hometown rebuilder almost made his entire living keeping our Farmall engines going. He always claimed the C-113 in a C would not give the hours of service between rebuilds that it did in an A. Furthermore, at rebuild time there would be more wrong with a C engine.

Coming to the F-20 and the H, they are both a relatively big block compared to either of the 113 cubic inch engines used in F-12, F-14, A or B. Put an H in the field new, it will do 20% more work than an F-20. I dare say most of that 20% can be credited to being more operator friendly than an F-20.

Again you have the same with F-30 and the M, both a very much bigger block than an H or an F=20, yet the M will outdo the F-30 in the field. I've operated them all, and grew up knowing guys that took new F series tractors into the field. Those same guys, like me took new letter series tractors to the field. You'll have a hard time convincing anyone that operated these tractor, and over 60 years of age, anything different than I posted here. Just how many hours does Guy Fay have with his posterior in the seat of a tractor. And just because a manufacturer used great marketing, how many North American farmers listened to that bunk.

Lets face it Deere has done the best job on marketing approach, yet the features of modern Deere tractor were all someone else's ideas. Oliver's 6 cylinder, IH's TA, Ford's power shift, Cockshutt's IPTO, Ferguson's 3 point hitch, just to name a few.





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