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The brakes on my 460 did not work at all. I looked at the old brake disks and I thought they were fine, still plenty thick 3/8" to 7/16" thick. After trying everything to get them to work I broke down and bought a new set which measure 1/2" thick. $50.00 on Ebay. That finally did the trick. Stops on a dime now. Hard to believe that an eighth of an inch can make that much difference.